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let's talk about lindsey graham. when you ask a guy who had already recanted his argument about the power of the israeli lobby, obviously enormously influential lobby like the nra, heavily funded, heavily activated, strong people with strong minds, everybody knows they're influential, that's why they're there. to say which senator do you know that was bought by them, controlled by them, intimidated by them. obviously there's no answer to that question. so what was the purpose of that exchange? what i would submit is it wasn't an interview. it wasn't even an interrogation. it was almost a star chamber attempt to incriminate the guy. in other words, there is no right answer to the question. had he named a name of somebody who had come up and said i was going to vote for that but somebody got to me and said i better not, if somebody had said that to him, he would have been dead in these hearings. i'm just saying what the questions were along the lines of, have you stopped beating your wife? there was no informative answ
let's talk about lindsey graham. when you ask a guy who had already recanted his argument about the power of the israeli lobby, obviously enormously influential lobby like the nra, heavily funded, heavily activated, strong people with strong minds, everybody knows they're influential, that's why they're there. to say which senator do you know that was bought by them, controlled by them, intimidated by them. obviously there's no answer to that question. so what was the purpose of that exchange?...
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. >> here's lindsey graham. badgering hagel. badgering is the word for it. whether the iranian revolutionary guard should be termed a terroristic organization. i think this is aimed directly at south carolina's right wing. let's listen. >> if there was a vote on the floor of the senate this afternoon to label the iranian revolutionary guard, the people who have killed our soldiers in iraq, some of the most vicious people to the people of iran themselves, if there were a vote tomorrow or this afternoon, would you still vote no? >> i would want to know from the president what they were doing again. >> i mean you read the paper, watch tv. do you very in doubt what they're doing? >> if you had a chance tomorrow, today, after lunch, to vote to say the revolutionary guard was a terrorist organization, would you still vote no? >> well, the reason i voted no to start with -- >> well, i know why. you told me that. my question is would you reconsider and vote yes this time or vote no? >> times change, i recognize that, yes, i would reconsider, but the whole theory. >>
. >> here's lindsey graham. badgering hagel. badgering is the word for it. whether the iranian revolutionary guard should be termed a terroristic organization. i think this is aimed directly at south carolina's right wing. let's listen. >> if there was a vote on the floor of the senate this afternoon to label the iranian revolutionary guard, the people who have killed our soldiers in iraq, some of the most vicious people to the people of iran themselves, if there were a vote...
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i want you to watch something by lindsey graham here. lindsey graham has been all over the place doing bad work i think the last couple days. here he is warning that cuts to police budgets, talk about republicans going crazy, are one reason citizens need guns with high capacity magazines. in other words, you got to reproduce the local police department. let's listen here. >> right. >> because of the fiscal state of affairs we have, there will be less police officers, not more, over the next decade. response times are going to be less, not more. there can be a situation where a mother runs out of bullets because of something we do here. >> now we have a new pearl harbor slogan, cut the police, pass the ammunition. i mean, it's unbelievable, ron. >> well, it's ironic, too, because republicans have been promoting these slashing of local budgets that results in fewer police on the streets here, and there's an unstated irony in this as well. that lindsey graham knows full well, wayne lapierre knows full well, gayle trotter knows full well and
i want you to watch something by lindsey graham here. lindsey graham has been all over the place doing bad work i think the last couple days. here he is warning that cuts to police budgets, talk about republicans going crazy, are one reason citizens need guns with high capacity magazines. in other words, you got to reproduce the local police department. let's listen here. >> right. >> because of the fiscal state of affairs we have, there will be less police officers, not more, over...
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i'd like to read senator lindsey graham's brief statement. he says, i hope the third time is a charm. i've enjoyed working with any senate colleagues in drafting these principles and believe we're off to a good start. bipartisan immigration principles represent a real breakthrough on substance and i hope seen as a breakthrough for a political coalition to finally solve our immigration problems. the coalition must also include the president and the house of representatives. my hope is immigration reform bill will start in the senate and receive an overwhelmingly bipartisan vote. we are a long way from legislative language but i believe 2013 represents us the best chance to pass immigration reform in many years. the time is right and the way forward while difficult is being better defined by the day and with the reasonable amount of political give and take we'll be successful. however, if for some reason we fail in our efforts to pass comprehensive immigration reform, i do believe it will be many years before anyone is willing to try and solve
i'd like to read senator lindsey graham's brief statement. he says, i hope the third time is a charm. i've enjoyed working with any senate colleagues in drafting these principles and believe we're off to a good start. bipartisan immigration principles represent a real breakthrough on substance and i hope seen as a breakthrough for a political coalition to finally solve our immigration problems. the coalition must also include the president and the house of representatives. my hope is...
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what i think is wrong -- you said that this was not about john mccain or lindsey graham. that is wrong. in a congressional hearing, it is about everybody. everyone knows it is a drama. in this drama, chuck hagel was halting, and the republican were bullies. nobody came out looking great. >> the secretary of defense, who has to negotiate with the russians and iranians, and you say he was bullied in a congressional hearing? >> this is entirely different. leon panetta, in his first public appearance, after leaving the cia, made a bunch of blunders of this kind. >> here is what is ahead for the next defense secretary. sequestration, the winding down of afghanistan, the bombing of targets in syria to keep the missiles out of hezbollah. al qaeda everywhere, china growing military might. north korea talking about another test targeting the united states. why didn't they get into that stuff? >> it is up to the members to do it. they did not get to it because it was not their objective. the objective, on one side, was to make sure the president's nominee gets through. on the other
what i think is wrong -- you said that this was not about john mccain or lindsey graham. that is wrong. in a congressional hearing, it is about everybody. everyone knows it is a drama. in this drama, chuck hagel was halting, and the republican were bullies. nobody came out looking great. >> the secretary of defense, who has to negotiate with the russians and iranians, and you say he was bullied in a congressional hearing? >> this is entirely different. leon panetta, in his first...
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it was about lindsey graham grandstanding for the five minutes he gets. there's a whole other story about how congressional hearings have really gone downhill over the last 10 or 20 years, five-minute questions you don't get to develop a train of thought, you don't take in the answer and have a real discussion. you saw yesterday far more talk about what hagel might have said about israel a couple years ago than about afghanistan. >> they wanted recantation. they wanted him to recant like -- excuse me, ecclesiastical proceeding. turn the candled upside down. >> they feel he turned on them, turned on the neocons and they want him to cry uncle. the neocons who are led in the senate by john mccain and lindsey graham, they see chuck hagel as the human road block and the symbol that barack obama, that president obama is not going to let them have their war in iran, and that is their problem with chuck headachel. >> i think our brains are connected. i say that again, joy. you're so smart. because i agree with your words as you speak them. they're brilliant. i'm
it was about lindsey graham grandstanding for the five minutes he gets. there's a whole other story about how congressional hearings have really gone downhill over the last 10 or 20 years, five-minute questions you don't get to develop a train of thought, you don't take in the answer and have a real discussion. you saw yesterday far more talk about what hagel might have said about israel a couple years ago than about afghanistan. >> they wanted recantation. they wanted him to recant like...
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who does he run into that old friends like lindsey graham. >> the reason i voted no to start with. >> i know why. my question is would you reconsider and would you vote yes this time? commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> welcome back, mike sell shore with you, ana kasparian joining me michael hastings as well. look at this, stepping in with sneakers and all david cerona. today, chuck hagel was in front of his old senate, colleagues he thought were friends. he had friends in the senate, friendsfriends like john mccain. >> that's a direct question. i expect a direct answer. >> the surge assisted in the objective but the if we review the record a little bit. >> would you answer the question, were you correct or
who does he run into that old friends like lindsey graham. >> the reason i voted no to start with. >> i know why. my question is would you reconsider and would you vote yes this time? commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would...
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senator lindsey graham, mccain mccain's new bff also took a shot. he brought up hagel's newest comment that, quote the jewish lobby intimidateed law makers. >> name one person in your opinion who is intimidated by the israeli lobby in the united states senate. >> well, first. >> name one. >> i don't know. >> why would you say it? >> i didn't have in mind a specific person. >> jennifer: that, too went on and on. after the hearing graham, who up until that point had been none noncommittal told foreign policy magazine that he was unlikely to vote for hagel. others went further. senator dan coates gave a 15 minute speech said he would vote no. hagel's performance did not earn him much praise from the other side of the aisle. here is senator claire mccaskill. >> well, i'm going to be candid. i think chuck hagel is much more comfortable asking questions than answering them. that's one bad habit you get into when you've been in the senate. you can dish it out but sometimes it's a little more difficult to take it. >> jennifer: interesting. she declared clai
senator lindsey graham, mccain mccain's new bff also took a shot. he brought up hagel's newest comment that, quote the jewish lobby intimidateed law makers. >> name one person in your opinion who is intimidated by the israeli lobby in the united states senate. >> well, first. >> name one. >> i don't know. >> why would you say it? >> i didn't have in mind a specific person. >> jennifer: that, too went on and on. after the hearing graham, who up until...
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lindsey graham. this is lindsey graham yesterday on fox talking about -- let's just play the sound. >> the one thing i'm not going to do is vote on a new secretary of defense until the old secretary of defense, leann panetta, who i like very much, testifies about what happened in benghazi. i haven't forgotten about benghazi. hillary clinton got away with murder. >> there you go. hillary clinton got away with murder, and we are going to hold chuck hagel effect tily his nomination hostage until we get our clearance. >> the thing is, as i think you'll see -- as the hagel hearings go on, as you saw in the lindsey graham line, there is an attempt to manufacture more divisiveness within the congress as regards though national security policy. with regard to other realms where there are disagreements in washington, i think we haven't seen a consensus really like this in many years, so we'll have to bring benghazi up again. we have to talk about whether the surge worked or not six years ago. those issues for
lindsey graham. this is lindsey graham yesterday on fox talking about -- let's just play the sound. >> the one thing i'm not going to do is vote on a new secretary of defense until the old secretary of defense, leann panetta, who i like very much, testifies about what happened in benghazi. i haven't forgotten about benghazi. hillary clinton got away with murder. >> there you go. hillary clinton got away with murder, and we are going to hold chuck hagel effect tily his nomination...
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if you'd have had it lindsey graham's way or john mccain's way we would have had troops in egypt, in libya, troops right now in syria. i don't think the american people have an appetite for that right now, nor do we have the resource to do that right now. it's in many respect not our fight. it's our diplomatic mission but it's not completely our fight. and the way of the obama administration has been to do things collectively. don't go it alone. and i think that chuck hagel fits very well in the obama administration for the pentagon. >> it seems like hagel is worthy of our blood and treasure. we'll continue to watch this. it's just as intense as it was anticipated to be. we'll see you at 8:00 p.m. here on msnbc. ed, thanks again. the power panel up next to weigh in on the hagel confirmation. you are watching our special coverage right here. >>> final for your entrepreneur of the week. the owner of aquariums in new york. the special attention have gained him a celebrity clientele. a customer base that he says can call his company anytime day or night if they need help. i'm only in my
if you'd have had it lindsey graham's way or john mccain's way we would have had troops in egypt, in libya, troops right now in syria. i don't think the american people have an appetite for that right now, nor do we have the resource to do that right now. it's in many respect not our fight. it's our diplomatic mission but it's not completely our fight. and the way of the obama administration has been to do things collectively. don't go it alone. and i think that chuck hagel fits very well in...
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lindsey graham not come out and said he is going to oppose chuck hagel cut. based on the posturing today, it seems hard to believe that lindsey graham could support him. ted cruz is a relatively -- a brand new member of the senate, and he is going through one of his first confirmation proceedings. he took no prisoners today and met through rounds of questioning using video and slides to question hagel and his record. guest: we're talking with tim mak. as anyone on the democratic side come out in opposition? guest:no, no single senator has come out. 8 lindsay graham said he would possibly put a hold on the nomination . do is get a to testify? guest: have not figured that out yet. we note there should be a hearing on benghazi next week. this is all touch and go. we have not figured out the confirmation of what is going to happen next week. guest: thanks for being with us. ed is on the phone from oregon. caller: hi. i have been listening to this hearing and your recent people they're expressing their views. i will tell you what is disheartening. we have a man wh
lindsey graham not come out and said he is going to oppose chuck hagel cut. based on the posturing today, it seems hard to believe that lindsey graham could support him. ted cruz is a relatively -- a brand new member of the senate, and he is going through one of his first confirmation proceedings. he took no prisoners today and met through rounds of questioning using video and slides to question hagel and his record. guest: we're talking with tim mak. as anyone on the democratic side come out...
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now the group includes democratic senators schumer menendez and john mccain, lindsey graham and likely presidential hopeful marco rubio. today they introduced their principles for that immigration plan. yes, this is a work plan devised by senators that rest on four legislative pillars. they include creating a tough but fair path to citizenship for 11 million unauthorized immigrants in the u.s. reforming the legal immigration system. create an effective system to end the hiring of future unauthority id'd workers anauthorizing an improved process of getting workers here. you can do that by lunch. senators schumer and mccain discuss why their principles could be an idea then a proposal and then a bill could be offered so soon a the last election. >> the politics on this issue have been turned upside down. for the first time ever there is more political risk in opposing immigration reform than opposing it. >> the republican party is losing the support of our hispanic citizens. weeswe realize that are there many issues that we are in agreement with our hispanic citizens but this is a pre-im
now the group includes democratic senators schumer menendez and john mccain, lindsey graham and likely presidential hopeful marco rubio. today they introduced their principles for that immigration plan. yes, this is a work plan devised by senators that rest on four legislative pillars. they include creating a tough but fair path to citizenship for 11 million unauthorized immigrants in the u.s. reforming the legal immigration system. create an effective system to end the hiring of future...
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. >> this thing about lindsey graham, if you agree with him it's great the way he talks. i mean, he just basically took as you said richard, one of the founding, dramatic, you know, well-funded core arguments of the nra which he has to work with and say that's not what i'm into. >> not so much, yeah. >> isn't that the deal, krystal? i mean, who is looking to handguns or even the military style assault weapons to take on the largest military in the world that has weapons and drones and tanks. what are we talking about? >> there is a group that does feel they have their weapons to protect themselves from the government. there is a small fringe group that does think that way. but it goes more to the basis of the nra's argument that any limit on the type of gun that you can own, how many you can own, how many you can buy at one time whether you have to have any background checks or have your name on a list if you own a weapon, that anything like that constitutes an infringement of second amendment right that is guaranteed to us. and as you know, the second amendment is not an
. >> this thing about lindsey graham, if you agree with him it's great the way he talks. i mean, he just basically took as you said richard, one of the founding, dramatic, you know, well-funded core arguments of the nra which he has to work with and say that's not what i'm into. >> not so much, yeah. >> isn't that the deal, krystal? i mean, who is looking to handguns or even the military style assault weapons to take on the largest military in the world that has weapons and...
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the friday after the election, senator lindsey graham gave you a call. on saturday morning. you saw him on your call sheet. you called him, and you said what? >> i said, "hi, lindsey." that was wonderful, and he said he had talked to john mccain, and my heart went pitter patter. there are different television shows, sunday morning talk shows. and we both said we were going to do it, and there we are. >> senator, you have gone back and forth. what made you decide to join it? >> i have always been for it, but i have always been concerned about border security, and i think with good reason. if you talk to the experts, there are still a number smuggled into united states that come in from the border. there is huge violence. we have people on mountaintops that are drug dealers. there are these coyotes, and they mistreat them, and horrible things happen to people are brought across. we have made significant improvements, and there have also been technology advancements in places like iraq and afghanistan, where we can surveil the orders. it gets as hot as 130 degrees, and that is
the friday after the election, senator lindsey graham gave you a call. on saturday morning. you saw him on your call sheet. you called him, and you said what? >> i said, "hi, lindsey." that was wonderful, and he said he had talked to john mccain, and my heart went pitter patter. there are different television shows, sunday morning talk shows. and we both said we were going to do it, and there we are. >> senator, you have gone back and forth. what made you decide to join...
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because you have people like lindsey graham who was for a carbon regime before he reneged on it going around saying they're not going to support it. >> republicans threatened to hold up chuck hagel's nomination this week over benghazi. next week there is more hearings. leon panetta, the outgoing secretary is going to testify there. secretary clinton already testified there. is there anything that can be done at this point by secretary panetta or anybody else to convince republicans that it wasn't a secret ghost ship to turkey or some other conspiracy? is there any way to fact chilly disprove what they want to believe about it? >> this is going to go down as one of the right-wing myths about america that are never going to die there are a certain core that are going to keep banging the drum. at some point perhaps someone will nudge the people who are pursuing this say we actually have real problems in north africa there is an intervention happening in mali. there are substantive issues on the table. stop talking about this. but it is so hermetically sealed in that world. >> yeah. >> th
because you have people like lindsey graham who was for a carbon regime before he reneged on it going around saying they're not going to support it. >> republicans threatened to hold up chuck hagel's nomination this week over benghazi. next week there is more hearings. leon panetta, the outgoing secretary is going to testify there. secretary clinton already testified there. is there anything that can be done at this point by secretary panetta or anybody else to convince republicans that...
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marco rubio, john mccain, lindsey graham saying, look, this has to be in the proposal. can they rally republicans in the house and senate behind the political necessity of putting immigration reform behind them with a path to sit sfwlenship or not? that seems to me to be the rub. >> with 2016 on their minds, we can also talk about the unusual joint interview the president and secretary of state hillary clinton and her last week in office jointly being appearing on "60 minutes." chuck todd, this was not an endorsement, they all say. it was a thank you. it was an interesting development to see these two together after aall that had proceeded in 2008. i was fascinated by this part of the interview where they were asked by steve croft about the residual resentments by staff and spouses that last lasted longer than the principles. let's watch. >> we both built some pretty thick skins. you know, sometimes our staffs don't go through that. they are taking umbrage and offense. hellry handled this, i assume as i do, we have a block, a screen, from a lot of the sillyness that hap
marco rubio, john mccain, lindsey graham saying, look, this has to be in the proposal. can they rally republicans in the house and senate behind the political necessity of putting immigration reform behind them with a path to sit sfwlenship or not? that seems to me to be the rub. >> with 2016 on their minds, we can also talk about the unusual joint interview the president and secretary of state hillary clinton and her last week in office jointly being appearing on "60 minutes."...
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lindsey graham of south carolina and ted cruz of texas had planned and publicly said that they were asking for permission from the d.c. government and lots of other organizations that they needed to ask permission for to bring in guns to have a show and tell as part of their q and a with these witnesses. they were not able to do that. a spokesman for graham told me that there was just too much red tape particularly because of the fact that d.c. laws are very strict when it comes to guns and especially when it comes to the kind of assault weapons that they wanted to bring in. instead graham at least is going to have pictures, posters of the kind of guns that he is going to talk about that he wanted to show as part of his q and a. we reported last week on a big press conference that dianne feinstein did and she was able to bring guns in. she had ten displayed on cork boards. she did that after weeks and weeks of discussions with the d.c. police, with capitol police, because bringing assault weapons into the capitol, into d.c. in general but the capitol is not an easy thing to do. >> we can s
lindsey graham of south carolina and ted cruz of texas had planned and publicly said that they were asking for permission from the d.c. government and lots of other organizations that they needed to ask permission for to bring in guns to have a show and tell as part of their q and a with these witnesses. they were not able to do that. a spokesman for graham told me that there was just too much red tape particularly because of the fact that d.c. laws are very strict when it comes to guns and...
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if mccain played the betrayed besty, fellow republican lindsey graham took the role of disappointed dad over his remarks about the, quote, jewish lobby. >> give me an example of where we've been intimidated by the israeli jewish lobby to do something dumb. regarding the middle east, israel, or anywhere else. >> well, i can't give you an example. >> thank you. do you agree with me you shouldn't have said something like that? >> not to be outdone, freshman senator ted cruz played the new kid on the block going multimedia and playing a video of a collar to an al jazeera broadcast. >> the caller suggests that the nation of israel has committed war crimes, and your response to that was not to dispute that characterization. i'd like to ask you, do you think the nation of israel has committed war crimes? >> no, i do not. >> cruz also asked hagel to defend himself against an e-mail from that same broadcast and actually took a statement about the quote sickening slaughter in the middle east wildly out of context. senator cruz is certainly looking to be the next gop star. let's get right to our p
if mccain played the betrayed besty, fellow republican lindsey graham took the role of disappointed dad over his remarks about the, quote, jewish lobby. >> give me an example of where we've been intimidated by the israeli jewish lobby to do something dumb. regarding the middle east, israel, or anywhere else. >> well, i can't give you an example. >> thank you. do you agree with me you shouldn't have said something like that? >> not to be outdone, freshman senator ted cruz...
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lindsey graham said it's not looking good. alabama's jeff sessions called himself uneasy about hagel's answers. but is it enough to sink the nomination? you're unlikely to see a democrat vote against him or peel off against him today, in fact, the hostile republican questioning might make democrats more united. and do republicans really want to filibuster the defense secretary nominee? one of their former colleagues who served in vietnam. meanwhile, if you needed an example of why cutting budgets is so politically hard in congress, notice how many of them from both sides of the aisle, mind you, had no problem getting in pitches and plugs for their own home state defense projects. >> on this strategic issues, i wonder if i could talk to you for a moment about submarines. >> air force academy is well positioned to train those new cybersecurity experts. we're also the home of space command. >> there's a ceremony in arlington tonight for the commissioning of a new amfib, the "uss arlington." >> north carolina we have seven militar
lindsey graham said it's not looking good. alabama's jeff sessions called himself uneasy about hagel's answers. but is it enough to sink the nomination? you're unlikely to see a democrat vote against him or peel off against him today, in fact, the hostile republican questioning might make democrats more united. and do republicans really want to filibuster the defense secretary nominee? one of their former colleagues who served in vietnam. meanwhile, if you needed an example of why cutting...
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. >> you're talking about senator lindsey graham. he showed the chart. >> this lady. >> the woman had a gun. she had a .38, six shots in it. he said an intruder comes in, she's in the closet protecting her children, she gets off six shots, five strike the guy, but it wasn't enough to kill him. so that if she had the ar-15 or a semiautomatic weapon, she would have been able to kill him. he fled, she killed, but he's saying she would have been able to kill him, not just strike him down. >> this is just a sick conversation. >> but it's part of -- there's a similar thread to all of this, and it's fear. you listen to wayne lapierre yesterday, it's fear. gun sales are driven by fear. his opposition to background checks is driven by trying to inject fear into the culture. it's all fear based. >> and -- >> i thought mark kelly was the best of all. >> we're going to show all this because there was such powerful testimony on capitol hill. >> did you see it? >> it was great. i got a big laugh out of wayne lapierre. he actually trotted out the s
. >> you're talking about senator lindsey graham. he showed the chart. >> this lady. >> the woman had a gun. she had a .38, six shots in it. he said an intruder comes in, she's in the closet protecting her children, she gets off six shots, five strike the guy, but it wasn't enough to kill him. so that if she had the ar-15 or a semiautomatic weapon, she would have been able to kill him. he fled, she killed, but he's saying she would have been able to kill him, not just strike...
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can't do anything without lindsey graham alongside of him. they also include marco rubio from florida and geoff flake, the other senate from arizonaother senate from arizona. democrats insisted any immigration reform bill had to include a path to citizenship. had to do something about these 11 million people estimated, i think it's higher than that, who had been here, came here illegally, have lived here a long time had their families have jobs, have houses have kids in school. some have kids in the military belong to local churches members of the community, had to do something being them and allow -- give them a path to staying here permanently as american citizenship. democrats always insisted on that. and the president has insisted as have democrats, that this all has to be contained in one bill. it can't be little piece meal things. republicans, for their side, still have this broken record kind of demand that we have to have tougher controls at the border when, in fact we already have tougher controls at the border, more agents there tha
can't do anything without lindsey graham alongside of him. they also include marco rubio from florida and geoff flake, the other senate from arizonaother senate from arizona. democrats insisted any immigration reform bill had to include a path to citizenship. had to do something about these 11 million people estimated, i think it's higher than that, who had been here, came here illegally, have lived here a long time had their families have jobs, have houses have kids in school. some have kids...
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seven republicans have already said that they would vote no and senator lindsey graham has said that he will block the nomination if he doesn't get answers on benghazi. >> the one thing i'm not going to do is vote on a new secretary of defense until the old secretary of defense, leon panetta, who i like very much, testifying about what happened in benghazi. i'm going to block hagel from going forward -- >> so you're going to block him? >> absolutely. >> so we're closely watching also hagel's old pal, former vietnam veteran, senator john mccain, who he very publicly split with on the iraq surge. the vietnam vet, max cleland, almost dared mccain to vote no. >> we all suffered the same fate, pretty much, in the same war. and i don't want see john turning his back on his brother. >> that vietnam caucus was very close at one time. it's a shrinking caucus now in the u.s. senate, with many of those vietnam veterans not there anymore. >>> well, the capitol hill drama today will be hagel's nomination. yesterday, it was all about guns. yesterday's senate hearing packed emotion. gabby giffords
seven republicans have already said that they would vote no and senator lindsey graham has said that he will block the nomination if he doesn't get answers on benghazi. >> the one thing i'm not going to do is vote on a new secretary of defense until the old secretary of defense, leon panetta, who i like very much, testifying about what happened in benghazi. i'm going to block hagel from going forward -- >> so you're going to block him? >> absolutely. >> so we're closely...